Comments on: An Economy Not Worth Saving http://dalependell.com/the-retort/an-economy-not-worth-saving/ Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:57:50 +0000 hourly 1 By: Sardonyx http://dalependell.com/the-retort/an-economy-not-worth-saving/#comment-49 Sardonyx Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:57:50 +0000 http://dalependell.com/?p=259#comment-49 The problem with talking in this way is that it conjures up images of hairshirts and mud huts. A better image is one of sustainability; one where we retain televisions and mobile phones, food and flushing toilets. Just without all the waste and pollution and overuse. There is no reason we cant live in straw and wood homes that are built to modern standards, even covered with vegetation (including food?) with solar panels providing power to our electrical items. Simple solutions include eliminating standard town planning, allowing people to naturally live and shop near where they work, avoiding the suburb/mall idea. Lets talk about buying clothes and furniture from local craftspeople at the same price as we purchase from corporations. Lets all use Credit Unions, not banks. Yes; we badly need to cut the population in half, and half again. A world-wide one-child policy might not be a bad idea. Yes, we need to restore natural ecosystems, even design and build new ones where none existed before (terraforming). But to bring people with us, this has to be painted in colors of keeping the best and ditching the worst, not ditching everything. The problem with talking in this way is that it conjures up images of hairshirts and mud huts.
A better image is one of sustainability; one where we retain televisions and mobile phones, food and flushing toilets. Just without all the waste and pollution and overuse. There is no reason we cant live in straw and wood homes that are built to modern standards, even covered with vegetation (including food?) with solar panels providing power to our electrical items. Simple solutions include eliminating standard town planning, allowing people to naturally live and shop near where they work, avoiding the suburb/mall idea.
Lets talk about buying clothes and furniture from local craftspeople at the same price as we purchase from corporations. Lets all use Credit Unions, not banks.
Yes; we badly need to cut the population in half, and half again. A world-wide one-child policy might not be a bad idea. Yes, we need to restore natural ecosystems, even design and build new ones where none existed before (terraforming). But to bring people with us, this has to be painted in colors of keeping the best and ditching the worst, not ditching everything.

]]> By: Bavwu http://dalependell.com/the-retort/an-economy-not-worth-saving/#comment-46 Bavwu Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:21:18 +0000 http://dalependell.com/?p=259#comment-46 Excellent point of view, we have lost sight of what value is, or at least what it should be based on. The coming depression or recession will hopefully bring us back to realize the important things in life are, Health(food), Warmth (home), Community(working together). I just wish this time around we take the environment into account and rebuild in such a way we can advance farther then the average person can imagine today. "To save our debt stricken economies and to bring the value of our money up we need to create value, not create jobs and more money and more spending, but value." https://sites.google.com/site/becomingbavwu/home/survival/economic-collapse/save-the-economy Excellent point of view, we have lost sight of what value is, or at least what it should be based on. The coming depression or recession will hopefully bring us back to realize the important things in life are, Health(food), Warmth (home), Community(working together). I just wish this time around we take the environment into account and rebuild in such a way we can advance farther then the average person can imagine today.

“To save our debt stricken economies and to bring the value of our money up we need to create value, not create jobs and more money and more spending, but value.”
https://sites.google.com/site/becomingbavwu/home/survival/economic-collapse/save-the-economy

]]> By: Anna http://dalependell.com/the-retort/an-economy-not-worth-saving/#comment-23 Anna Sun, 08 Aug 2010 17:20:26 +0000 http://dalependell.com/?p=259#comment-23 Wow--- petroleum "addiction" is not a new idea but this actually extends the metaphor in a frighteningly successful way. Will the resulting anarchy be regenerative or barbaric? Will we be humbled by our demonstrated foolishness, or continue to find someone to blame? Can millions of people actually die of a broken heart? Wow— petroleum “addiction” is not a new idea but this actually extends the metaphor in a frighteningly successful way.
Will the resulting anarchy be regenerative or barbaric? Will we be humbled by our demonstrated foolishness, or continue to find someone to blame? Can millions of people actually die of a broken heart?

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